From dave.ottalini at wap.org  Sun Sep 30 12:57:43 2007
From: dave.ottalini at wap.org (Dave Ottalini)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:57:43 -0400
Subject: [Apple3-L] Can an Apple III Boot off an Apple Profile HD?
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The short answer is - NO. The longer answer is that with BOS3 (and a  
couple of earlier programs), you would start with your .d1 drive but  
it immediately goes to the Profile and loads everything from there.

The longer answer is that On 3 founder Bob Consorti's folks found a  
way to do this, but it was not something they ever cared to share  
because they didn't want to spend the time making it work on a  
commercial basis... our loss.

Dave

From steve at yuhasz.org  Sun Sep 30 13:29:42 2007
From: steve at yuhasz.org (Steve)
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:29:42 -0400
Subject: [Apple3-L] Can an Apple III Boot off an Apple Profile HD?
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Dave,

Thank You for the reply. This is what I had come to figure was the  
case due to the lack of it being referenced anywhere. That would be a  
nice addition to note in the Apple III FAQ.

I am not sure if you know the answer to this, but it does appear that  
the Apple II Profile controller card has a boot ROM and will boot  
directly off the Profile. I am guessing that the Apple II interface  
must have been made available after the Apple III Profile controller.

Also, the Lisa boots directly from a Profile, correct?

So, am I correct to conclude that the Profile was designed and made  
originally available for the Apple III and then was made available to  
Apple II customers, and finally Lisa customers?

Here is another interesting question. Can other newer controllers  
allow an Apple III to boot directly from an HD (ie http://dreher.net/? 
s=projects/CFforAppleII&c=projects/CFforAppleII/main.php) ?

Thanks again,

Steve

On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Dave Ottalini wrote:

>
> The short answer is - NO. The longer answer is that with BOS3 (and  
> a couple of earlier programs), you would start with your .d1 drive  
> but it immediately goes to the Profile and loads everything from  
> there.
>
> The longer answer is that On 3 founder Bob Consorti's folks found a  
> way to do this, but it was not something they ever cared to share  
> because they didn't want to spend the time making it work on a  
> commercial basis... our loss.
>
> Dave
>

